I really don't want to get the gay marriage issue going, but I did want to talk about something related.
Yesterday the California Supreme Court struck down a law banning gay marriage. This ban was approved by voters by a huge margin. The court basically told voters that their vote didn't count.
There are a few issues here and I think it would be good to think about them separately.
First of course there is the gay isssue itself. Whether it is good and natural, or an aberration. Second is the marriage issue.
Third is the issue of whether judges should be revoking issues passed by voters.
I would like to talk about the third issue. That is what concerns me more.
What is next?
Does this set a precedent for any supreme court to reverse the results of any election?
Is this not a pure example of judges having too much power and creating law?
The answer to both is yes. Basically they have cleared the way for any judge to reverse the results of any election at any time.
Does the will of the people not mean anything?
To me this is really dangerous. The gay issue, and gay marriage, are political issues. But Judges revoking elections is basically destroying democracy. and THAT is a true threat to our country, i believe.
Freedom of speech could well be next. Freedom to own property, freedom to do what you want, live where you want to live.
I am a bit outraged, but not because of the gay issue. Because judges have reversed the results of an election.
The ban on gay marriage is not really so much against gay people, as it just defines what marriage is. I think a culture has a right to do that, but that isn't the real issue here.
We shouldn't be so distracted by the gay issue that we miss the fact that our freedom is in danger. The danger is not gay marriage, the danger is activists judges reversing elections.
They say our vote matters. California supreme court says otherwise.
More I think about this the more upset im getting. Gonna write my congressman and everyone else i can think of.
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Wow, you actually see the wrong in the will of the people not being carried out, and a select few people having too much power to use at their discretion, to whatEver political or financial gain it may bring them?
Good for you! I agree whole-heartedly.
Was there really a vote? I hadn't heard anything about it. I have heard about the court battles and government decisions, but I have heard nothing about a citizen vote.
Glad you understand what I was getting at.
THey had a vote a few years ago. They were one of the first states to pass such a thing.
They can even pass rescinding it.
I do think courts reversing or revoking elections is a dangerous thing.
"We shouldn't be so distracted by the gay issue that we miss the fact that our freedom is in danger."
Good point. Though I don't think the judges really care. Judges should do just that. Judge. Not make law. I hope the good folks in Cali rise to the occasion and fight this. Does the voice of thousands of Cali voters mean nothing? Apparently these 9 judges don't think so.
It's not so much different here with our own city commission. They don't do what we tell openly tell them.
The same with the judges a year or so ago the told our elected officials how much they have to spend on eduction. No judging involved, directing the budget.
In a few years there is another election and things turn back again. Hopefully not too little too late.
The problem is that we are using traditional marrige as a rite for benefits as a government and society. There is a reason for that and its due to the family unit structure. (Protection/provision/direction) The divorce rate at 55% for first time and higer still for second and third marriages has done more to diminish traditional marriage than the current debate which is primarily over equal treatment.
Why then are we so shocked - when others don't share our view of marriage. Remember those young couples - many who are the product of divorce! What value do they see in a marrige that quite simply has a 50/50 chance of survival! Then is expensive and both ends!
To the degree we value traditional marriage is determined by how we feel/participate in Divorce.
There is a lot of work to be done if Taditional marriage and the family unit are to be saved!
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