Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Tonights agenda for the city

Here is the agenda for tonight's meeting. The most interesting items of course, are the sales tax issues. Both will be put on the agenda. Its up to the voters now. What do you want?
Also, on the city's web site there is a link to the agenda, as well as the "packet" that commissioners get at the meetings. It has a lof of background on each agenda item.
Here is the link: Also on this page you may download their bills for the month, see where your tax money goes.

http://arkcity.org/DocumentCenterii.asp

AGENDA
1. Receive Planning Commission recommendation and consider ordinance rezoning properties:
- Lots 1-28, Block 6, Park Place, more commonly known as 815 West Madison from I-1 (Industrial, Restricted) District to I-3 ( Industrial, Heavy) District;
- Lots 1-7, Block 7, Park Place, more commonly known as 703 and 705 South 7th from R-2 (Residential, Single Family) District to I-3 (Industrial, Heavy) District
- Lots 25-34, Block 7, Park Place, more commonly known as 712 and 716 South 8th from I-1 (Industrial, Restricted) District to I-3 (Industrial, Heavy) District. LG Pike. (Roll call vote).
2. Hold required annual meeting of the Public Building Commission.
3. Consider resolution authorizing and providing for the calling of a special question election in the City of Arkansas City, Kansas, for the purpose of submitting to the electors of the City a question relating to the imposition of a citywide retailer’s sales tax for a new hospital.
4. Consider resolution authorizing and providing for the calling of a special question election in the City of Arkansas City, Kansas, for the purpose of submitting to the electors of the City a question relating to the imposition of a citywide retailer’s sales tax for street improvements.
5. Consider resolution authorizing an agreement with Wilson & Company through the City of Newton for development of a post construction BMP Manual for storm water NPDES Regulations.
6. Consider Mayor’s appointments to City Boards.
Miscellaneous Matters from the City Manager/City Commission.

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the link. It was interesting to read through it. I did notice on the write up for the hospital sales tax that will appear on the ballot it did say some of the funds would be used for the "cost of operation." while I'm NOT arguing against the need for a new hospital I'm curious as to why the sales tax is needed to operate the hospital? I thought the intent of the sales tax was to BUILD the hospital.

Traveler Editor said...

l I'm curious as to why the sales tax is needed to operate the hospital? I thought the intent of the sales tax was to BUILD the hospital.

Good question.
They explain during their program that this is for the first year in case there would be a cash flow problem with start up.
Its pretty limited what it can be used for.

Anonymous said...

I heard the city was about to bail out HNB!

Anonymous said...

This hospital is a big undertaking, do you think the city is capable of managing it? Maybe they better get a project manager that know about building hospitals. I bet Mel Koon has never build one before

Anonymous said...

you mean the city has to build and manage the project? the budget is bigger than the citys budget?

Traveler Editor said...

No, more disinformation
The city is not in the hospital-building business.
It wont have anything to do with the actual building.
And you can bet they will have a construction manager, or project manager overseeing it.

Anonymous said...

Well if the city is still planning on allowing a beer garden, than maybe there should be a 5% lush tax. Let the drunkards foot the bill.

Seems like no one can enjoy a parade, football game, or a heated game of horse shoes without chugging that devil fluid. A recent study showed that those who drink more than 5 drinks a week account for a 47.3% increase in health issues.

47.3% imagine! Using the various amounts and figures available from the hospital plan, that 47.3% would amount to $367,564.23 per year. Assuming the drinking population remains the same. Unbelievable! Where as compared to smokers, the smokers on national average only increase health issues by 13.4%. A number we could find manageable.

Anonymous said...

Question for anyone that knows:

Why did the city not allow liquor permits to the Chamber this year for a beer garden?

Too many "church goers" complaining about it? Or too many baptist not wanting to be seen by the methodists?

Anonymous said...

This hospital is a big undertaking, do you think the city is capable of managing it?


If they can't there are over a 100 people on here that would be more than happy to tell them how to run things....:(

Anonymous said...

I heard the city was about to bail out HNB!


What? The good ol boy system at work again?

Traveler Editor said...

Why did the city not allow liquor permits to the Chamber this year for a beer garden?]>>\
>>>

Ill check on that.
Far as i know, the chamber hasnt yet asked ?
Course there are church goers that have a beer now and again.

Traveler Editor said...

Hmm What if its the other way, HNB bailing out the city?
Put that in your rumor mill and grind it.

Anonymous said...

HNB bailing out the city?


JJ is this a fact or just a little humor? Has the city taken out to much in loans forcing HNB into a hardship?

What is the status of the city finacials? Shouldn't the amigos be more worried about repaying the city loans to help HNB? If they can't cover their expenses now then how will they fund a new hospital, bike path, overpass and numerous other projects? More taxes? At the cost of ruining one of the ares oldest banks?

Anonymous said...

What if it's the rumor mill who's seeing HNB behind the city's back? What if one winds up preggo?

You ARE NOT the father!

Anonymous said...

Ark City Industries will bail out HNB.

Anonymous said...

Mel Koon said he was not aware of a bailout , but the agenda is open for public comment

Anonymous said...

USB bails out HNB


More to come tomorrow!!!!

Traveler Editor said...

i know im not the father

Traveler Editor said...

and lets not forget cornerbank ...
im sure theyre involved somehow, maybe they are the mastermind behind the scenes

Anonymous said...

Traveler Editor said...
i know im not the father

I don't know it kinda has your eyes..

Anonymous said...

Less you all think this is just some sort of joke, may I remind you of the Great Depression?

My uncle had a thriving buisiness on Wall street until the depression wiped him out......

A broker jumped out of a window and landed on my uncle's apple cart.....

Instantrimshot.com!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I have some very startling, very radical -- some might say coldhearted -- insights into Traveler Newspaper's latest words. The following text regards my complaints of recent days against Traveler Newspaper and its subtle but scurrilous attempts to usher in the rule of the Antichrist and the apocalyptic end times. I should note that in a tacit concession of defeat, Traveler Newspaper is now openly calling for the abridgment of various freedoms to accomplish coercively what its diabolic objectives have failed at.

Traveler Newspaper ignores a breathtaking number of facts, most notably:

Fact: Another piece of supporting evidence is that Traveler Newspaper's theories are devoid of logic and filled to the brim with hate and misinformation.

Fact: Traveler Newspaper's desire to create a mass psychology of fear about an imminent terrorist threat is both a cause and an effect of what we now see as a global increase in fascism.

Fact: The elasticity of its interpretation of the Bible shields Traveler Newspaper from having to take a stand for anything morally correct yet politically (spiritually?) unpopular.

In addition, whenever Traveler Newspaper is blamed for conspiring to shout direct personal insults and invitations to exchange fisticuffs, it blames its votaries. Doing so reinforces their passivity and obedience and increases their guilt, shame, terror, and conformity, thereby making them far more willing to help Traveler Newspaper deny both our individual and collective responsibility to live in harmony with each other and the world.

Whatever else may be the case, it is certain that no matter what else we do, our first move must be to educate everyone about how Traveler Newspaper wallows in its basest behavior. That's the first step: education. Education alone is not enough, of course. We must also make technical preparations for the achievement of freedom and human independence. If you'll allow me a minor dysphemism, it's shocking just how gormless Traveler Newspaper can be. Or, to phrase that a little more politely, Traveler Newspaper focuses on feelings rather than facts. Sure, it attempts to twist and distort facts to justify its feelings but that just goes to show that I'm no psychiatrist. Still, from the little I know about psychiatry I can definitely say that Traveler Newspaper seems to exhibit many of the symptoms of Asperger's syndrome. I don't say that to judge but merely to put Traveler Newspaper's stingy zingers into perspective. Now that you've reached the end of this letter, let me leave you with the key take-away message: It really bothers Traveler Newspaper when people don't obey it.

Anonymous said...

Sales Tax? You mean everyone will pay for it not just the residents of the city? Finally something that is fair and does not put more burden on our city property taxes, AMEN!!

Anonymous said...

We love you JJ

Anonymous said...

Clark Kent has nothing on you James. Dang good story. Will you be at tonight meeting?

Hear some "secret" things will be brought to light

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Clark Kent has nothing on you James.


Hah, if Jordan was so great he would be invited to the REAL city meeting, the one that takes place on Fridays....wink wink nudge nudge

Anonymous said...

SUPER-DUPER JORDAN-MAN! Writer of good and slayer of evil "Secret" meetings. Faster than a speeding Moped, more powerful than The Three Amigos, able to jump to conclusions in a single bound....it's James Jordan aka SUPER-DUPER JORDAN-MAN.

Anonymous said...

And he looks SSSSSSSSSSSuper in tights..wink wink

Anonymous said...

No that should have been:

Faster than a speeding HOOPTY mini-truck

LOL

Anonymous said...

Monty Python says:

"Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge"

Anonymous said...

What is it with all of this Home National Bank stuff. It really looks to me that some other bank or financial institution is trying to destroy the competition with innuendos and finger pointing.

I have lived in this community for many years and I have accounts at more than one bank. the one thing that i do not understand is the attacks on HNB and the Browns.

If you will look back at the success of this community it grew when both banks worked together for the GOOD of the TOWN and not the good of one institution over another.

HNB does not need to be bailed out as some of you would love to think. I would like to think that the good the institution has done for this town overweighs the few of you that got turned down for loans or fired from jobs there.

There are others out there that want to equate ARk City Industries with HNB. You show your ignorance every time you open your mouth since many that are part of ACI are not customers of HNB but you are the same people that refuse to listen to the truth. It is lies and put down at all costs in your book.

Save Bryants at any cost, save Woods at any cost and now let's do what we can to destroy a local bank. Isn't this fun? What bank do you people really work at or do i already know? Why the double standard of killing one business and doing all you can to bad mouth another.

I will never understand the pettiness and evil minded spirit of this "Christian I don't drink beer" community.

I am convinced there is little hope for a community full of people that want no progress but find thrill in tearing things up. If we got constructive criticism it would be wonderful but this is mean and meant to destroy.

When I moved to this town years ago we took pride in what we were doing and where we going. Now, several decades later people take pride is in destroying and badmouthing. It was often said that the people moving here every two years from GE were the reason for the progrss. I am convinced that is true since that influx has stopped and we are now stagnant.

Anonymous said...

Hey are you sitting there reading the Blogs naked? If so please consider joining Blogs Anonymous LLC. You too can have a life of reality and stop dreaming that you exsist in a land of make believe. Become a citizen that has a real job and pays taxes to support the society in which you were born.

Anonymous said...

"I am convinced there is little hope for a community full of people that want no progress but find thrill in tearing things up. If we got constructive criticism it would be wonderful but this is mean and meant to destroy."

You're right please stay here and save us...by the way where's the Beer?

Anonymous said...

Forget the beer. Our wonderful commission felt that we weren't able to make adult decisions about whether we want to go to the Beer Garden or not. They felt they had to do it for us. Perhaps, they are friends with the owners of the Pool Hall. Ahhh...they saved another local business.

Anonymous said...

I do NOT know what the heck you people are bloggin 'bout. duh....

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I do NOT know what the heck you people are bloggin 'bout

From what I can piece together...

People from several (maybe all) the banks in town were caught drinking beer in one of the city commissioner's garden. Apparently JJ arrived driving a "hoopty"(???) and wearing tights. JJ was able to bail out the people who were drinking the beer.

One or several of the drinkers got sick so the hooptied it over to the ER but found that the hospital was all packed up ready to move to its new location. The person/people who were sick needed stitches, but all the thread, needles were already packed up somewhere and couldn't be found. So the doctors, who are not specialists because AC is a small town, decided to use staples.

But, damn the luck, there was no Lowes nearby due to the three amigos. Which are three of the city commisioners that run around during the day wearing really big hats and singing Richie Valen songs. So since there were no staples the doc, again not specialists, decided to use tacks. So they are seeking taxes from the city since all the hospital taxes are already packed away in some box. Whew!

Anonymous said...

SMOKE'EM IF U GOT'EM

Traveler Editor said...

I just looked out the window on the way home from the commission ... yep, its a full moon.

Anonymous said...

there is only one post in this whole mess that is even remotely worth reading, and that is the one who discribes the hipocrytes that live in this evil city.
Myself being from the outside, I see this very plainly, those who persecute others because they like beer and those who ridcule JJ because he likes to sling the word naysayer around.
Do not judge others, live together and enjoy life it is way to short to spend your life thinking others should be more like you want them to be.

Anonymous said...

Question.....why would the city need a 11,000 treadmill. 8224 1 I 9/11/2008 8/27/2008 TREADMILL,ELLIPTICAL-RE 11890.00. Or am I confused and this is a differnt kind of treadmill.

Anonymous said...

From what I can piece together...

Mystery man, you have put it all together. A wonderful scenerio.
I applaud you!

Anonymous said...

You're confused but at least you asked. Call and get a straight answer. It is not what you are thinking but see how you could think that.

Anonymous said...

No! No! You've got it all wrong!

Native Lights forcloses on A.C.
Hospital/Casino/Resort is to be
built on Free Indian Land North
of Town.
Doctors to be replaced with
Medicine Men.

And those Three Trubadors that held that blueprint in a bare field on the front page of the Traveler were HNB officers or board memebers!

Anonymous said...

I could swear that there were some illegal immigrants involved somewhere.

Traveler Editor said...

Well i guess the secret is out.
The illegal aliens are norwegians.
Sneaky trick by the casino operators i must say.

Anonymous said...

I really hope no out of town people are reading this blog...it is so STUPID. I guess I have no sense of humor but none of it makes sense to me.

Anonymous said...

Imaginations at work...anything that gives me a chuckle like the nonsense here is OK in my book!

Anonymous said...

I just want to know who hired the bank robber? Maaaybe HNB had it set up to hide all of the "undisclosed" monies they have lost recently. Yeah! That's got to be it. Ummm, a big black guy took it and headed north.

Anonymous said...

Could it be some one they hired from Winfield???? Or how bout someone at the festival???? LMAO!

Anonymous said...

You are a little warped, aren't you? Would you like me to compile a list of psychiatrists in the area for you?

Anyway, whether the robber was from here or out of town, I would think that most likely this person had to know the setup of the bank at least. I mean, would you really just walk into a bank without at least knowing the setup?

Anonymous said...

...and if you are just being sarcastic, my apologies!!!

Anonymous said...

donna said...

I mean, would you really just walk into a bank without at least knowing the setup?


Standard procedure, check the tapes going back X many days. See if they spot someone casing the place, or someone that looks like the supspect.

Anonymous said...

Or course it was sarcasim....Winfield plays fairer than that! Get a sense of humor!!! It is a way to smile in times when smiling is sometimes hard to do! Lighten up!

Anonymous said...

And if you are going to make up that list of psychiatrists in the area you might keep a copy!

Anonymous said...

Like I said, my apologies if it was sarcasim and yes I will keep that list of psychiatrists handy!!! Never know when someone (or myself) might need it. Ha!Ha!
:)