Ive been talking with Kasha Kelley and Ed Trimmer about the money crisis at the statehouse.
It is cool having a representative in our area from both sides of the aisle. I think this way we get a well rounded picture of what's happening up there.
Anyways, it seems this whole crisis thing was never a crisis at all. It was just politics. As you would expect, just who was playing politics depends on which side you ask.
There never was a real danger that employees would not be paid, nor was there a real danger that income tax checks would not go out.
Trimmer said this happens every year. The state doesn't get as much revenue in Jan-Feb., and it gets more around April and May. So in the past, every year, they borrow from April and May money to finish off the lean months of Jan-Feb. It's just a short term bond note.
The only difference is that this year it became politicized.
Kelley agreed that this was never a real crisis.
But they don't agree on how it happened or why it happened this time.
The deal is, the Governor signs a bill to move the money around to make expenses, and the heads of the House and Senate sign of on it, and its a done deal.
This time, from what I gather, the house and senate leadership threatened to not sign it because the Governor had not signed the state budget bill. The governor then went to the media and cried wolf, and the media took the bait, and we had a news story.
But, some say the governor could have signed it over anyway. But republicans say there was some reason it wasn't legal this time. Looks like both sides were playing a little politics.
I would give credit to our two legislators for telling us the real deal.
Though both did point to the other side as the root of the problem.
I emailed Steve Abrams, to see what they were thinking over in the Senate.
Kinda gave him the chance to join in the political fray. To his credit, he didn't take the bait. I got the idea from his email that he was not real concerned about it. He did say it was not a real crisis, but he does think there is a real crisis with funding the overall budget.
They do have bigger fish to fry up there. There really are budget shortfalls, and the 2010 budget isnt going to be pretty. Just hope they stop playing politics long enough to deal with the situation.
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Luke 16: 19-31
Bill Sheldon 1: AC-0
Arkansas City thou shalt not make me clean up. You may taketh my pawn license, but I will still pawn, just without all that tedious paperwork. You may take away my firearm license, but I shall still purchase them across the street.
Luke 22: 3-19
Oh yeah well how about Mark 6: 4-9?
Leviticus 12:41-62
Anarchy Rules, we just need to get organized and selected a President. Wait we have Mell Kuhn and he has already proven that rules do not apply
Jessica 36: 24-36
:)
more on jessica please i like the sound of 36-24-36
that is a chapter i would love to turn the pages on slowly and methodicly, enveloping every inch of the verses deep within
Anonymous said...
more on jessica please i like the sound of 36-24-36
that is a chapter i would love to turn the pages on slowly and methodicly, enveloping every inch of the verses deep within
February 19, 2009 3:37
Religous Pervert!!!!!!
Ive no idea why the bible references started flowing.
They didn't seem to relate to this too much.
and im not even touching on jessica.
Ist hesitations 2:2
what in the? how does stuff like this keep happening? it is amazing what democrats get away with and still keep their offices.
link:
http://kansasliberty.com/liberty-update-archive/2009/23feb/voter-id-bill-fails-to-advance-in-house
text in case the link fails:
Democrats opposed. Bill returned to committee for further study
Voter ID bill fails to advance in House
A bill that would have required Kansans to show a photo ID before voting was returned to a House committee today for further study.
The House voted 63 to 55 to send the bill to the House Federal and State Affairs Committee.
The bill would have required first-time voters and voters who have dropped off registration lists to produce a photo ID before voting in person or in advance. It exempted senior citizens, military members and their spouses residing outside the country.
Bill supporters, including sponsor Rep. Mike Burgess, a Topeka Republican, said the bill was intended to ensure the integrity of elections.
But House Democrats, in a repeat of arguments made over a similar bill last year, said the measure could have disenfranchised poor and elderly Kansans, who they say are less likely to have photo IDs.
Democrats offered an alternative in which voters without photo ID could sign an affidavit attesting to their identity. That is among the possible compromises that will be discussed by the committee
A similar bill introduced last year and approved by the Legislature was vetoed by Gov. Sebelius.
Yea thats one i don't understand.
Ive lived and voted in Tennessee, South Carolina and Arkansas, and all of them required a photo ID to vote.
It would be really easy to go vote in someone's place and steal their vote, particularly in a large city where you dont know everyone.
I guess identity theft doesn't happen in Kansas?
That is crazy!!! How can photo ID not be required??? Every state I've lived in has.
What Ive wondered is why people oppose it. ???
The ironic thing is that a lousy economy may actually help Ark City downtown.
If Ponca City suffers and Lowes or TSC closes then people may shop more in AC.
The downtown businesses won't suffer as badly as the big ones in Wichita or Ponca, because their overheads are low and they have been living without business for a long time now anyway.
Many of the business decisions for chain stores are not made based on the local market, but are based on the overall profitability of the chain.
Who would have guessed years ago that Woolworth's, Newman's and KMart would be history? The same environment that took them out is coming on the horizon again.
It is easy for a business to do well in a growing economy, but flash and splash can clash when there ain't no cash. (businesses tend to dash when they don't have a stash)
Lean and mean may be a salvation to local businesses.
@ 9:00
State issued photo ID's and/or driver licenses cost a fee. Requiring a voter to purchase an ID before being able to vote is a poll tax which is unconstitutional. In 1966 the Supreme Court struck down a poll tax stating restrictions on the right to vote must be “closely scrutinized and carefully confined.”
You've also got to take into account that we live in a rural state. DMV's are not always easily accessible statewide. Those who this bill targets most likely do not have means of transportation, public or otherwise.
I would personally have no problem requiring a photo ID to vote so long as anyone of legal age could easily obtain a state issue photo ID at no cost.
But really, is voter fraud rampant in Kansas? Can anyone document one case of voter fraud in Kansas?
"Democrats offered an alternative in which voters without photo ID could sign an affidavit attesting to their identity. That is among the possible compromises that will be discussed by the committee."
Democrats don't want the ID law because they want illegal immigrants to vote for them. It's the same reason that they risk our safetly every single day by keeping an open border. VOTES! That is the reason behind their idiotic ideas, not because poor or elderly would have to buy an ID. They want illegals to vote, because illegals vote democrat.
Not that it will matter much after Obama grants them all amnesty.
Byte Daily said" "But really, is voter fraud rampant in Kansas? Can anyone document one case of voter fraud in Kansas?"
Identity theft is. Cowley County, since the packing house got here, has become a hot spot for identity theft. Why do you think that is? The only way voter fraud could be tracked is if it is caught. How many of the little grey haired ladies who work the polls are going to catch them voting with a fake ID?
(No offense to the little grey haired ladies. Thank you for your time as volunteers.)
@ 10:28
Illegal immigrants cannot vote.
If the bill was introduced to prevent voter fraud then one would suspect that voter fraud has occurred in Kansas. Has it? If it has not occurred then I do not understand how a non existent problem has helped Democrats. Please explain your logic.
So some of the people here in these blogs seem to have all the solutions to every problem. Please, Do tell your legislators that you know exactly what to do and lo and behold everything will be taken care of.
The only logic their is bytedaily, is someone in here has dug them heels into the ground and continue to poke at the democratic party.
democrats are like used tolit paper, the both have a different use but always smell the same
so what are you, like 12?
I would personally have no problem requiring a photo ID to vote so long as anyone of legal age could easily obtain a state issue photo ID at no cost.
BD, this sounds like a reasonable compromise.
By the way, how can you acurately say that illegals cannot vote. Maybe they are not supposed to, but how can you prove that they are not?
Oh, and you appear to be very bi-partisan. We have them on both sides, but you definately seem to play the part of the Democratic cheerleader. Maybe I am just as guilty of my support for the Republicans. What do you say we put the parties aside and be Americans? I believe deep, deep, ok way deep down we really just want the same thing.
"Maybe they are not supposed to, but how can you prove that they are not?"
It is very unlikely that any of them 1. bother 2. risk arrest 3. care.
No, illegals don't vote in Kansas.
Instead of having to prove that none vote, maybe prove that one ever has voted once would be simpler.
Put yourself in their shoes. You don't speak english well and you are risking exposure as an illegal.
Maybe in the barrios in LA, where there are enablers, but not in Kansas.
Fake emergency.
deep down we really just want the same thing.
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I think this is very true.
To me, the greater problem is partisan politics.
Hopefully people are starting to get tired of the posturing, grandstanding and games.
There needs to be greater effort to understand each other and to compromise.
I dont think the voter id thing is a big deal either. Its just that in other states I have lived in, showing some ID was a given.
How about just having people show some form of identification?
@ 7:59
Thank you, I find it reasonable as well. I don't want anyone to take advantage of our system but I am weary of enacting laws which would make it harder for people to vote. I want the system to be fair for all involved.
Like I said, It is against the law for illegal immigrants to vote. It's possible some have (and committed a crime) but there is no evidence of that happening in Kansas. I find it highly unlikely given the risk involved anyway.
I think your third deep sort of circumvented your sincerity in that last sentence though. =)
@ 8:33
Good points!
I think your third deep sort of circumvented your sincerity in that last sentence though. =)
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You're probably right.
On the issue of voter registration, at least, I believe we agree. ID is important, but not at the exense of citizens right or ability to vote.
@ 7:59
Exactly - I am glad that we agree!
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