Wednesday, November 5, 2008

election observations

Its just after midnight. It was an exciting and interesting evening.
I went back and forth between where the dems and pubs were hanging out in Winfield.
There were also some private parties and such. Also made a few trips to the courthouse. All of this was in a four block area, so I did a lot of walking.
I also set up shop a the Courier and was able to type in my updates from there.
The munchies were a bit better with the republicans.

And then there was the voting.
Both of the city taxes passed, which was a bit of a surprise.
The hospital won by a nice margin, 2190 - 1532. The street tax was much closer, at 1952-1754.
I guess the people of Arkansas City do want to be forward thinking.
This could be a continuation of good things happening in and for Arkansas City.

The county commission race for Gary Wilson and Bob Voegele was very close, with Wilson winning 1864 - 1844. They still have to count the provisionals, write ins and do the canvasing. Usually it doesnt change that much, but there may be a recount.
Wilson was cautiously optimisic Tuesday night at the courthouse.

In the other commission race, Alan Groom upset the incumbent Carmaleta Clarkson 2799-1801.

One big surprise was Steve Abrams win over Greta Goodwin in the State Senate race. Goodwin won Cowley County, 6786-6399, but the Sumner County vote pushed Abrams over the top at about 12000 to 10000. The folks over in Wellington are still smarting over losing out on the casino, and they blamed Goodwin.

The statehouse races went about as expected. Trimmer won easily 4484 - 2313, with 65.9 percent of the vote. No surprise there.
Kasha Kelley was a surprise only by the margin. She had 64 percent of the vote, winning 4,118 - 2291.

Everything else was about as expected.
I did notice, during the speeches by presidential candidates. When McCain congratulated Obama, people in the crowd booed - which McCain quietened.
When Obama gave his speech, he praised McCain and no one booed.
Just thought that was interesting. No comment needed eh.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think it looks like Abrams won overall

State SEnate District 32
Greta Goodwin 6399
Steve Abrams 6786
entire district
abrams 12000

Traveler Editor said...

Yes, he did win, Sumner County was the difference.
here are the actual totals.

D-Greta Goodwin 11819
R-Steve E Abrams 13724

Anonymous said...

Abrams overcame a bunch of negative press.

Anonymous said...

I'm not surprised.

Anonymous said...

It's about time.

Let's all be positive in looking toward the future, and pray for all of our elected leadership.

Anonymous said...

I too noticed people booing during McCain's speech and found it totally disrespectful.

With that said I found it even more appalling to see people making a HUGE issue about Obama being elected as the first black president. Yes he is black but shouldn't we be past race??? I saw people dancing in the street because our next president is will be a minority.

I did not vote for or against Mr. Obama because of race. I voted for or against him because of issues. I did not vote for or against McCain because of President Bush which I saw the national news saying this morning. Again I voted based on issues.

My parents raised me to NOT judge a person based on race but on the person. I was raised to believe that I could be anything I wanted to be regardless of my race or gender.

Anonymous said...

"My parents raised me to NOT judge a person based on race but on the person. I was raised to believe that I could be anything I wanted to be regardless of my race or gender."

I absolutely agree with this poster. So many people went to the polls to vote based solely on the fact that Obama was a minority. That is what won him the election.

Anonymous said...

I made the same observation about the booing. I think it says a lot about character.

Anonymous said...

I think the booing had nothing to do with character but with many tired and disappointed people who had worked months to support their candidate. They booed...no big deal. We are lucky that in America the government can change hands with only a few people booing and not with guns.

Let them boo...they were disappointed and even very supportive fans boo at sporting events to show displeasure and not a lack of respect. It is a way to vent disappointment. Had Obama lost I am sure his supporters would have reacted in the same way. Now let's just see if everyone can hold hands and work for the good of America or if it will be politics as usual

Anonymous said...

"I made the same observation about the booing. I think it says a lot about character."

Who's character? From what I watched McCain basically told the people to be quiet and was very very gracious in his speech. He reminded us all that we are American's. Perhaps now with elections over the name calling,accusations, etc can STOP and we can remember regardless of party affilation WE ALL want what is best for our country and work together to make our country great regardless of race or gender.

Anonymous said...

I'll take booing over riots and looting any day. You all know that's what we'd have seen if Obama had lost.

Anonymous said...

I agree.

If we continue to bad mouth our leaders, no wonder the youth have little or no respect for authority.

I respect President G.W. Bush, and I pray for him and our country.
I'll respect President Elect Barack Obama
and pray for him and our country as well.
A house divided against itself can not and will not stand. (neither will a country)
It is time people for us to move forward, and to grow up and work together.

Anonymous said...

They we're booing Palin in parts of the speech.. Youtube it.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely, we need to pray for President Elect Obama. Couldn't agree more. I personally did not vote for him, but wasn't excited about McCain either. However, I will support President Obama, he just may be the most incredible President.

Anonymous said...

Hey, I'm just glad to be rid of Greta Goodwin.

bytedaily said...

Last night I attended the Democratic watch party and the night was bittersweet. We all were overjoyed that the candidate we supported for President won. It was disheartening to see that our local candidates not fair as well.

To all our local candidates unseated or not elected, we thank you for trying. You put in hours of long hard work and you should know our appreciation. Without you we would not have had a choice, without you we would not have had a voice. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

http://winfieldcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=27129

Hey Greta - The people you represent in Wellington WANTED the casino and fought very hard for it. Too bad you didn't back them and you probably would have won. Not that I wanted you to but you might have.

Anonymous said...

There have also been times she didn't answer the call to citizens in need of council on certian things. They were ignored...I guess she was too busy. Now she will have tons of time to answer her mail!

Anonymous said...

Isn't it strange how she now speaks but couldn't even given written responses to questions before the election?

Anonymous said...

When I saw the first negative commercial on TV against Steve Abrams, Greta lost my vote. I guess you could have run a monkey against Greta and they would have had my vote. I am no fan of Abrams but at least he seemed to run a clean crew when it came to advertising.

Anonymous said...

"Inside" sources say Kuhn wants a meeting to address keeping the hospital where it is. It was my understanding, before I voted 'yes,' the new hospital could not fit where it is now and must be relocated. That's the only reason I voted the way I did. I do not support renovations or another little, rinky-dink country hospital. I understood the new building would be bigger and in a location conducive to new research facilities, clinics, etc. That stuff will not fit in the current location. Kuhn surely did not have an epiphany in the last 12 hours, so this has been up at least one sleeve for some time. Why wasn't this in the paper? Everyone at the hospital and clinic knows about all the texts Kuhn has been sending out. Investigate and let us know.

Traveler Editor said...

ok, but i really doubt this one.

Anonymous said...

I would believe that if Mayor Kuhn, or any of the commission memebers, even suggested such a thing, it would violate some sort of election law. Vote for money for a project, but decide to use it a different way. I would cry foul, along with a majority of the people of voted for it. I voted yes, because I know we need a new hospital. But I wouldn't have voted to fix the old one up.
That would be like voting for the School bond, and they decided that instead of putting in new energy-efficient windows in the schools, they would just buy bigger A/C and heating units, after the bond passed. Bad example, I know, but it constitutes the same thing. Vote for one thing, but someone decides to change the plan after the fact.

Anonymous said...

I agree, but maybe you should check into the H.S. heating units before you poo-poo the idea of replacement. Safety was supposedly the main reason for the school bond (so we could buy a sports complex). Windows can't buy safety.

Anonymous said...

It was a bad analogy. Sorry. I was just trying to make the point that if you vote for a specific thing, that is what should happen, not change after the fact. I could understand if something come up, like they find out the land is contaminated with something, or the ground in one suitable for buildings, or something like that.

Anonymous said...

OK, so what are they doing with the school bond money? Haven't seen anything yet but a million dollar proposal for new tennis courts and didn't even know that was part of the issue.

Traveler Editor said...

School Bond MOney
Lots of work being done at IXL
and some of the other elementary schools.
lots of infrastructure type stuff at present.
the tennis courts have been part of the project all along.
probably be a year or so before we see the high school football stadium

Anonymous said...

I posted earlier about the Kuhn meeting. All you need to do is ask him if he denies sending the texts. Several people saved them, so if he denies it, there is proof he is lying. Investigating is easy.

Traveler Editor said...

send me some

Anonymous said...

Oh, OK - I will see if anyone would let me use their cell to cross the "outspoken, headstrong" mayor. Pretty sure I would not get many takers. Just consider it an unfounded rumor. I would like to know whay he has to say, though.

Anonymous said...

I think it would be wrong to change at this point. However, many people are still not happy with the proposed location. Contrary to some "foreign" city leaders' thinking, AC will not grow to Strother Field in my lifetime. Probably not my kids, either. After that, they will be wanting to rebuild and move it again, anyway. Unless if they change their ways, they will not take care of this one, either.

ksjosh82 said...

The commission couldn't change ways now. Our mayor has been known though to talk out of his butt on occaision and then later retract it and pretend he didn't say it but I highly doubt even he would change his mind about location. He was just as on board as the rest of the commission from what I could tell after Clayton Pappan met with them.

ksjosh82 said...

Contrary to some "foreign" city leaders' thinking, AC will not grow to Strother Field in my lifetime. Probably not my kids, either.

Oh ye of little faith! You don't have very much confidence in your community. While development wont happen overnight I believe that some will occur once a hospital is built.